why? reason this out for me, what advantage does a cap fleet give you in holding five specific grids in a constellation, especially given spaceaids

There won't be fights because the optimal way to do things with current implementation is with ceptors, petes, and Svipuls fitted with T2 sov lasers. Or with disposible T1 frigates.

If they come for you, you run for the duration of the cycle, then repeat the process elsewhere. Or you use T1 frigates and just send hundreds of the things into enemy space, they will miss a couple.

Except while this fleet is duking it out over system A, the attacker sends 4 other fleets to flip sov in B thru E. Because they don't need DPS fleets and don't need to commit supers to these probes, they just need something that can fit an E-link and defend it. So now defender has to send smaller fleets to defend B thru E. And each of those fights has a chance of escalating too. And eventually attacker and defender run out of pilots and escalating forces and instead of one fight with 4000 people in system A, it's 5 fights with 800 people in each of system A thru E.

True, it will turn into giant TiDi cap blob if the attacker is trying to take the LAST and ONLY sov system from the defender. But otherwise it drastically encourages the attacker to make multi-pronged assaults because they DON'T need to commit caps and supers to each prong until and unless things begin to escalate in order to have a realistic chance of succeeding (since overwhelming DPS is not required).

This likewise forces the defender to actually defend these multi-prong assaults NOW, not later. You can't just ignore it because you know the HP on the defending structure will buy you hours and hours of time. And you can't just let them fall and say "meh when these come out of reinforce we'll just drop our overwhelming super fleet to defend it later". Because that will no longer be a viable tactic because of the command node CTF game.

hmm "Prime Time" goes a bit like this, Alliance mail goes out reading:

CTA Everyone! Structures are going vulnerable in 1 hour, drop what you are doing, come hug the station and defend the system from attack...btw we get to do this every day of the week same time, so get used to stopping what you are doing and not enjoying the "sandbox" and get used to playing king of the hill.


I mean seriously CCP...the current system is miles better than this, are you TRYING to push people back into low sec? I mean Im sorry but these changes are absolute garbage, you guys really need to go back to the drawing board and take a look at this because this is very labor intensive and having to do it every single flipping day is madding enough for someone to go, eh not worth it just go back to low sec where I can fight instead of having to baby sit my station every 20 hours.

I am seeing very little reason why anyone would want to hold 0.0 sov except for the moon income. Your system makes 0.0 the riskiest place to live (which I agree it should be) but doesnt offer anything over just mission running in highsec and fighting in lowsec.

The 4 hour timer is always a bad mechanic, no in fact its terrible. Sorry guys, only one tz gets to play 0.0, the rest of you just go back to ratting or on a pointless roam.

Bye bye supers, no point to them now.


...and we all move to NPC space.

what makes you think i won't squash you for funsies

we spent three months squashing anyone who dared mine gallente ice in highsec, what makes you think that every shitlord who raises a flag isn't going to look like a nail to swing my massive hammer at

could you call yourselves "the honey badger coalition" when you all move into null so we can repeat the last time we squashed a bunch of incompetents like a bug who thought that quantity was quality

ok, good luck with that, see you soon

Since every single ship will be able to attack hostile Sov, every roam will be duncked as soon as it enters intel covered space. Sov holders won't tolerate any non-blue to fly around their space.

To be honest, I think this will kill casual (and most fun) pvp. There needs to be a way to identify a fleet as a sov tread or just a roam. Maybe introduce a specialised ship?

Recon ships might do (those which don't have a sov bonus), or HIC's ...